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    Re: The Zimmerman Verdict

    It's strange that I keep hearing that shit, had it been the other way there wouldn't have been nearly as much coverage. Probably not. However it seems to me there is actually more coverage for Caucasian tragedy. For instance missing children, historically more Caucasian children get coverage and mass media attention than inner city black/Hispanic children. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how it seems to me. I think it's sad man. Who gives a fuck what colour someones skin is, I personally think it should be covered no matter the heritage/race, especially when it's of dire importance (ie; children). Again, that's just me, and I have the bleeding heart syndrome.

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    Re: The Zimmerman Verdict

    If Trayvon had been white, it wouldn't have been much of a media event. It's possible that they could have turned into a gun control rallying cry, but considerably less likely. If Zimmerman had been black, same situation.

    Where people start wildly speculating is that if Trayvon had been white, Zimmerman wouldn't have pursued him. To be honest, I don't think it would have changed a thing.

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    Re: The Zimmerman Verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by Raesvelg View Post
    if Trayvon had been white, Zimmerman wouldn't have pursued him. To be honest, I don't think it would have changed a thing.
    Either do I because the only profiling I think Zimmerman did was based on his attire and assumed age.

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    Re: The Zimmerman Verdict

    Oh, I think he profiled him, in the sense that "some young black males wearing hoodies have been burglarizing/invading homes in the neighborhood", because, well, that happened. But under the circumstances I expect he would have been suspicious of a young white male given what he perceived as erratic behavior on Trayvon's part.

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    Re: The Zimmerman Verdict

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    is almost undoubtedly the one who threw the first punch.
    Other than based on Zimmerman's testimony alone, where's the other evidence that removes doubt?


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    Re: The Zimmerman Verdict

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebu6Yvzs4Ls

    Anyone seen this yet? Sounds about right. Yup. Leaving that here.

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    Re: The Zimmerman Verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by Elemmire View Post
    Other than based on Zimmerman's testimony alone, where's the other evidence that removes doubt?
    Bear in mind that what I stated was "almost undoubtedly". Note the qualifier.

    But as for evidence that indicates that Martin threw the first punch, it's varied, most discerned through deductive reasoning.

    To begin:

    Zimmerman has no incentive to initiate a fistfight with what he likely perceived as a larger opponent. He's carrying a gun, after all. His intent is to either follow or apprehend Martin; a fistfight serves neither of these purposes.

    Martin decides to turn around and initiate a confrontation. In that action, we get a glimpse of his state of mind: confrontational.

    Martin bears no wounds save the bruises and scrapes on his knuckles and the gunshot wound to his chest.

    To compound on Martin's lack of wounds, the guy who receives the first punch is fairly likely to get hit by it, particularly if there's no buildup to violence in the confrontation. It's why they call it a "sucker punch".

    Zimmerman's keys are found on the ground at the initial point of confrontation. If Zimmerman had been preparing to do violence, it's likely he would have put his keys away to get both his hands free, or utilize his keys as a weapon. If he's attacked, however, it's likely that he would drop his keys in order to defend himself.

    And of course there's that part where, in an interview with the Huffington Post, even the star witness for the prosecution Rachel Jeantel stated that she believed Trayvon hit first.

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